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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

AW , I was at that show in Albany . It was magic . One of the best shows that I had the privilege to see . Set two many have heard , and the MLBJ can bring a tear of joy to your eye . Don't forget set one . The first 7 songs are gold , even WB . I do not think that is written often .

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-03-24.sbd.miller.107873.flac16

As a said above , every year has it's gems . Be it a set or 50 shows . And there is a high degree of emotional context which informs our opinion . '90 is prob. my 3rd fav. year . Why ? For me , it capped the promise of post coma JG . That GD wasn't just spinning in a rut , but some new gems were added to the canon ( my '90 is really from Sept. of '89 to Sept. of '90 ). When I look at it with a cold eye , '69 or '90 , it is not even close , for me , which I would choose .
Like what you like , love what you love , who am I to say for you ?
AW , '93 is not a fav. of mine . Link a few shows up . I can not listen to the whole deal ( time ) , but give me a few prime cuts . Thanks .

Edit - Thanks for the recs AW

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2010-07-26 18:49:34

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 26, 2010 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

I am enjoying this.

Why don't people like Walkin' Blues? I love that song. I think it's anti-Bob bias :)

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

It is a great song, unfortunately it can't compare to the original by Robert Johnson which ruins it for me. There is some Robert Johnson here at the archive although not Walkin' Blues. But if you give this a listen you may see why Bob's version can't stand up.

http://www.archive.org/details/RobertJohnsonMp3AudioSongs


btw Bob is not alone, Eric Clapton has said that he regrets what he did to Johnson's Crossroad Blues with Cream.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

Thanks ...

Here it is on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2-EL6Pk2L0

Okay. But I still like Bob's version. I know it's an ignoramus opinion, but hey if I'm willing to admit I like this show from 1990, I know I'll lose all credibility with some folks, but I do like it.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

I think if you like a show from '90 and were not willing to admit it you would lose credibility with a lot more folks.....

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

It's a great show.

I saw them in September 1990 and it was lousy, and depressing.

Too bad, 'cus this is fabulous, a real rebuttal to those who insist they sucked by this time. These folks cannot have actually listened to this.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 26, 2010 12:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

I really enjoyed the handful of shows I saw in the post-Brent 90s. I was so anxious beforehand about whether they'd just be awful, but was pleasantly surprised each time. I don't know how the shows would hold up to listening now; I haven't listened to them on the archive. Maybe it was just that I was so happy to see the boys again, or maybe my trepidation made so-so shows seem good. But I'd like to think that the 90s have wonderful moments that may pale in comparison to other years, but are still pretty darned hot. I hope that's true, anyway ...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

3-29-90 is a classic. I saw them in July '90 (7-16, Buffalo) and it was a good show. Does it stand up to '72-74? No, but I had a blast and I still give a whirl every now and again.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

Which one is Without a Net? I listen to that frequently in the car; I repeat the Walkin' Blues-Althea obsessively.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

It is a compilation from 89-90. This is from wikipedia:

"Feel Like A Stranger" recorded at Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, Virginia on October 9, 1989

"Victim or the Crime" recorded at Brendan Byrne Arena, East Rutherford , NJ on October 15, 1989

"Cassidy" recorded at The Spectrum, Philadelphia on October 19, 1989

"Bird Song" recorded at Great Western Forum, Inglewood, California on December 9, 1989

"Let It Grow" recorded at Capital Centre, Landover, Maryland on March 14, 1990

"Walkin' Blues" and "Althea" recorded at Capital Centre on March 15, 1990

"Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo" recorded at Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario on March 21, 1990

"One More Saturday Night" recorded at Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, New York on March 24, 1990

"Looks Like Rain" recorded at Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, New York on March 28, 1990

"Eyes of the World" recorded at Nassau Coliseum on March 29, 1990

"Help on the Way/Slipknot!/Franklin's Tower" recorded at Nassau Coliseum on March 30, 1990

"China Cat Sunflower/I Know You Rider" and "Dear Mr. Fantasy" recorded at The Omni, Atlanta on April 1, 1990

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 26, 2010 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

Oh, I see. I suppose that's all in the liner notes so sorry to make you go dig up the information! I had not realized it was not all one show.

a shame - it seems I saw them just a few weeks too late in '90, they seem to have been really cooking for the previous year.

This post was modified by ringolevio on 2010-07-26 19:14:55

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 26, 2010 12:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

I must chime into to say that this is far too many posts on 90s era material...if I were running things around here, I would require that a nonDEAD, possibly CREAM related post be inserted after every five of this sort. I am shocked to find elb going to such lengths on the topic (since you admitted you liked it--right thing to do, as elb noted--and are a relative newbie, you get a pass).

See? I can still be a judgmental old bastard. I may have to rethink my take on this micah kid as well; "shows we attended" are always problematic...just ask the "critics of the reviewers" subcommittee.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 26, 2010 1:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

LOL but what if I get bolder about admitting to liking 90's shows? And how long do I have to be a newbie?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 26, 2010 1:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

Don't you always want to be one? I think of the term with affection (ahem...hold the comments, eh Dan?) as it means you've graduated from "unknown" to regular, JG or some such rank. Better than "sweetums", right? I got in big trouble for that one...

If you want me to call you a "grey haired (har) old regular", with a variety of age related ailments, like Dire and elb, not to mention, old man Rob, I'll try to change over...your call.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 26, 2010 6:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

well one doesn't have to be OLD to not be a newbie on the forum. I would like my cake and eat it too.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 26, 2010 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

I believe I mentioned Cream in this thread!! Although I did not babble on and on about Jack so maybe that doesn't count in the former PM's book.

I will admit that Without a Net has a soft spot with me. From 1995-2005 when i didn't listen to very much GD, Without a Net was the CD that I would play. I had just started spinning American Beauty right before i discovered this place.


This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2010-07-26 20:19:55

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 26, 2010 2:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

el , I had a similar self exile period , congruent with your time . It was all too much .
The Eyes from WAN is a classic . One of the most requested by my youngest ( 9 ) , and bonus , he sings along too . I secretly watch him sometimes . ( God forbid if I was to openly watch him sing . )

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 26, 2010 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

I am not sure why i left it behind. I think part of it was my life was changing a lot starting in '95 with kids and then moving to a new town in '96.

As for Net, I remember in '91 while in grad school i was staying with some friends in a cabin and i put it on. They all were familiar with the Dead but it was in their past. When Eyes came on one of them said, "wow this is like grateful dead for grown ups."

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 26, 2010 1:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

Yeah. I can certainly live without Dear Mr. Fantasy and that stuff, but the Althea on that album is pristine, surreal.

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Poster: august_wst Date: Jul 26, 2010 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

I was there as well. I am an east coast guy and hit just about every appearance at the old Knick. Great show. Great run for that matter.

Anyway, try this Knick show

Casey Jones, Days Between, and Eyes are a few of the highlights

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1993-03-27.sbd.nawrocki.555.sbeok.shnf

This post was modified by august_wst on 2010-07-26 16:05:51

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jul 26, 2010 10:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

LOL Althea, i only wish we could do this like we do w/ tapes!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 26, 2010 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

Science fiction movie plot: Time machine is invented, but greedy corporations grab the patents on various years, the way they're trying to do now with medicinal plants from indigenous cultures.

Intrepid Deadheads desperate for a trip to the 60s and early 70s get around the corporations by trading years. Drama ensues ... tie-dye colored laser fights, Deadheads leaping buildings, a revitalized Jerry breaks into corporate HQ with his guitar on full blast, a la Back to the Future, and melts a few corporate minds ...

If any sci-fi writers are on board here, I want full credit for this when it comes out :-)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 26, 2010 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 69 or 81?

yeah 3-27-93 is definitely a pretty good latter day show.